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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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that would be fine with another star witness nra president wayne lapierre. mandatory background checks would be fine with him. patrick leahy of vermont ran that by him again. >> should we have mandatory checks at gun shows. >> if you're a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question, please mr. la pierre, i'm not trying to play games, but if you could just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbiests and collectors. >> john: never mind the fact that they're all hobbyists and collectors until one of them shoots a lot of people. but what about sales where they don't care who buys their guns and certifiable deranged killers. could background checks work there? >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not be sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> john: that might have been true for another more recent gun violence victim. she marched as a majorette in the president's inaugural parade parade.
that would be fine with another star witness nra president wayne lapierre. mandatory background checks would be fine with him. patrick leahy of vermont ran that by him again. >> should we have mandatory checks at gun shows. >> if you're a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question, please mr. la pierre, i'm not trying to play games, but if you could just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately, that it...
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you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a...
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. >> reporter: the nra said adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens not criminals. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform. that's president obama's hope. he laid out his platform with our sister spanish network jose diaz mullar from telemundo. >> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawfully hire undocumented workers. we know what the pathway to citizenship looks like and what the criteria should be. so, really the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. i'd like to see it get done in the first half of the year, if possible. >>> hope remains for the search of a missing air force pilot off the coast of italy today. captain lucas guntner and his f-16 disappeared three days ago during a nighttime mission. his wife describes him as a self-reliant outdoorsman. and if anybody could survive something like this, she says, lucas cold. fog hampered the u.s. and italian rescue efforts but the family remains hopeful because among the debris found so far the
. >> reporter: the nra said adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens not criminals. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform. that's president obama's hope. he laid out his platform with our sister spanish network jose diaz mullar from telemundo. >> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawfully hire undocumented workers. we know what the pathway...
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when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a statement right away, and i agree that having security at schools is a good idea, but i don't necessarily think it's a federal government role. i think it's up to communities, states to decide and the schools in my districts, we already have resource officers in every school, so this is something that's being done on a local level in some places, and we ought to look at whether that's good policy everywhere, but, again, i don't think the federal government needs to be involved in funding it or telling states that they have to do it. >> senator, i've got to have it quickly. what did you think of the nra resp
when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a...
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a dramatic appeal from gabby giffords, pleading with congress to act on guns while the head of the nra says not so fast. all of this played out at the very moment we heard of another shooting spree. >>> a deadly outbreak of tornadoes tearing up part of the south, along a dangerous line of colliding winter and summer weather that is visible from space. >>> direct strike. israel has now attacked syria in an air strike. what does this mean for this very dangerous civil war? and all the nations nearby? >>> and the parent trap. if you think it's tough cheering for your kids on the sidelines, imagine your kids are the opposing coaches in the super bowl. tonight, we'll hear from their folks. "nightly news" begins now. >>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >> good evening. it takes just a moment to remember back clearly to the very moment we learned about the shootings at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. to remember how shocked we all were and how sad and sorry a scene that was. well, this is still very much the p
a dramatic appeal from gabby giffords, pleading with congress to act on guns while the head of the nra says not so fast. all of this played out at the very moment we heard of another shooting spree. >>> a deadly outbreak of tornadoes tearing up part of the south, along a dangerous line of colliding winter and summer weather that is visible from space. >>> direct strike. israel has now attacked syria in an air strike. what does this mean for this very dangerous civil war? and...
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>> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> my problem with background checks, you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: many democrats want to limit magazines to ten bullets. while republicans say self defense may require more. >> one bullet in the hand of a mentally unstable person or a convicted felon is one too many. six bullets in the hands of a mother protecting her twin 9-year-olds may not be enough. >> reporter: today, in an interview with telemundo's jose diaz balart, president obama said new restrictions could make a difference. >> even if it doesn't save every person who is a potential victim of gun violence. we save a few. if we don't do that, shame on us. >> reporter: and the president goes on the road to minnesota monday to sell his own reforms. and many republicans and members of the nra are saying prosecutors today need to do more to enforce the laws that are already on the books. brian? >> kelly o'donnell, after a big day on the hill. kelly, thanks. >>> there are fewer places i
>> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> my problem with background checks, you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: many democrats want to limit magazines to ten bullets. while republicans say self defense may require more. >> one bullet in the hand of a mentally unstable person or a convicted felon is one too many. six bullets in the hands of a mother protecting her twin...
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we heard from the nra chief. we making progress? >> when it comes to guns in the control of guns to absolutely not. what we have really lost control of are the gangs. i did the story of a chicago this morning. i talked about the not -- a mother who has lost four children to gun violence in one family. a daughter and three sons, the latest just recently, and the gangs are what are out of control. chicago police have no control over them. the sister-in-law's angeles. not only true in the major urban centers, get cain violence is taking over the suburbs and even rural areas in america. we do virtually nothing about it. here in new york there is a major gang squad unit that works very hard all the time. i think that there are hundreds involved in it, and even they have trouble, if you remember this past summer, they cordoned off a blocked because the gangs, they knew the gangs are going to be fighting in the streets and the cubs cordoned it off and would not let people know wind that live there. lori: gang violence, video games. so many
we heard from the nra chief. we making progress? >> when it comes to guns in the control of guns to absolutely not. what we have really lost control of are the gangs. i did the story of a chicago this morning. i talked about the not -- a mother who has lost four children to gun violence in one family. a daughter and three sons, the latest just recently, and the gangs are what are out of control. chicago police have no control over them. the sister-in-law's angeles. not only true in the...
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i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on magazines. and i wonder if the national rifle association has helped his cause with an ad that was released this week that talked about armed security guards, the president skeptical those could work, did not rule it out. but talking about the president's children and that issue of security. watch a portion of that ad. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools? >> over the line? >> look, i'm going to let people to dec
i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on...
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. >> reporter: the head of the nra called the universal background check a waste of time and money. >> you are never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. all of the law abiding people you will create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> congress woman jackie spear who was shot five times says wayne la pierre doesn't represent the nra membership. >> the polls show that the vast majority of the nra members support the background checks. >> he will turn the recommendations over to nancy pelosi and we will see how you far they get in the republican-led house. in the newsroom, mark matthews, abc 7 news. let's go overseas to israel and the air strike raising the concern ooh even higher in the embattled part of the middle east. israeli war planes bombed a convoy near the syria border with lebanon and martha raddatz explains what the strike is all about. >> reporter: this is what we know. officials say truckloads of dangerous weapons were being loaded from a facility in syria and then were headed for lebanon. officials say inside the trucks were fa 17s. very capabl
. >> reporter: the head of the nra called the universal background check a waste of time and money. >> you are never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. all of the law abiding people you will create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> congress woman jackie spear who was shot five times says wayne la pierre doesn't represent the nra membership. >> the polls show that the vast majority of the nra members support the background checks. >>...
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the head of the nra was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hand. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hand. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer. >> security in schools, armed guard at the schools. their answer. the famous quote. the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. that is their stance. more guns, arm everybody. >> what about all the loopholes? gun show loophole? there has to be an answer from the nra about that. >> even with all of the debate going on right now. it seems the assault weapons ban from '94 to 2004. doesn't appear to go through. a lot of opposition. we are a gun loving country end of the day. oner to they get around and make head way on the background issue, the loopholes you mention, particularly, a private dealer or at gun shows, the same check system is not in pla
the head of the nra was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hand. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hand. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer. >> security in schools, armed guard at the schools. their answer. the famous quote. the only way to stop a bad guy with...
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the head of the nra. so, who won the first round? >>> the $275 million man on the wroeps tonight? the guy who got all the glamour and the girls. is he about to go down? >>> and, cats going wild. what we just learned today about the secret life of fluffy. scientists track them and discover a kind of feline frankenstein. >>> good evening. we begin with that wall of wind howling across the country tonight. millions of americans bracing for the impact, everything from stalled trains and planes to tornadoes. and here is the map. an area from the florida panhandle to new york, under a severe weather warning. abc's steve osunsami is outside atlanta tonight in adairsville, georgia, where one powerful tornado has already torn through town. >> reporter: an hour north of atlanta, an amazing picture, the sky was falling. >> we've got debris flying to the left and center of this system. the sirens have been going off here. the wind is kicking up, along with the rain. again, a funnel crossing the interstate here in adairsville. >> reporter: witnesses here say the tornado was on the ground, chur
the head of the nra. so, who won the first round? >>> the $275 million man on the wroeps tonight? the guy who got all the glamour and the girls. is he about to go down? >>> and, cats going wild. what we just learned today about the secret life of fluffy. scientists track them and discover a kind of feline frankenstein. >>> good evening. we begin with that wall of wind howling across the country tonight. millions of americans bracing for the impact, everything from...
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maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >> captain mark kelly, thank you very much. we wish you the best of luck in your efforts. >> thank you, mika. thank you, joe. >> thanks for being on the show. >> thank you, captain. and please give our best to your wife. what courageous testimony yesterday. >> it was. it was incredible to hear from her. it said it all. it really did, in very few words. this issue, though, we were talking about generals coming forward, colin powell, different people on our show, and politicians who are moving toward trying to get either bans on assault weapons or background checks for stricter regulation
maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >>...
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the nra, and i also don't think the nra is representative of being pro-gun. i'm pro-gun. i don't, like --. bill: alaska girl. >> i grew up in a house filled with guns. i learned to shoot when i was young. i don't, nra is on a different level. they go after both parties. that is not a republican organization. bill: your argument, the administration is going to make. they are going to say you need a comprehensive solution to help prevent things like that from happening again. >> that's right, they do. bill: can they sell that. >> that is absolutely true. one of my concerns they're trying to sell gun control as some sort of a panacea. they say let's have this comprehensive solution, looking at violence in entertainment culture and mental health and school safety and clinton era position that would deputize people to have a firearm they're only giving specific ideas of changing gun control laws. its much more comprehensive solution. we need to hear what that includes. bill: more than a 30 round clip. kirsten, give you the last word. >> i agree you have to look at mental healt
the nra, and i also don't think the nra is representative of being pro-gun. i'm pro-gun. i don't, like --. bill: alaska girl. >> i grew up in a house filled with guns. i learned to shoot when i was young. i don't, nra is on a different level. they go after both parties. that is not a republican organization. bill: your argument, the administration is going to make. they are going to say you need a comprehensive solution to help prevent things like that from happening again. >>...
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the nra is made up of millions of americans who support what works. the immediate protection of all, not just our schoolchildren, is what is needed and swift surround punishment of criminals who misuse guns and fixing our mental health system. >> lapierre has been arguing for gun rights for a very long time. and he was around for the first nationwide assault weapons ban, which expired eight years ago. we have tape, actually, back from the early 1990s of him and senator dianne feinstein, who introduced a proposal for a new ban on specific guns and large capacity magazines. listen and you will see how this gun debate hasn't actually change toad much after two decades. >> if you politicians would only stop talking about more taxes and more gun bans and more regulations on honest people, and spend a little bit of that rhetoric and a little bit of that energy going after violent criminals of complete breakdown of our criminal justice system and the fact we don't even prosecute criminals with guns anymore, because the system has collapsed, maybe then we wou
the nra is made up of millions of americans who support what works. the immediate protection of all, not just our schoolchildren, is what is needed and swift surround punishment of criminals who misuse guns and fixing our mental health system. >> lapierre has been arguing for gun rights for a very long time. and he was around for the first nationwide assault weapons ban, which expired eight years ago. we have tape, actually, back from the early 1990s of him and senator dianne feinstein,...
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we have representatives of the brady campaign and a board member of the nra. people who have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common ground and not just look at guns but also mental health issues and where that is in the equation and school safety issues. it's going to be an interesting discussion tonight, wolf. >> i'm really looking forward to it. i hope you find common ground. this is a critically, critically important issue for our entire country. anderson's town hall tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. >>> up next, a catastrophic flooding taking an enormous economic toll on australia and they have an impact felt around the world. ake someone happy.♪ ♪it's so important to make someone
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so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will ve a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals will never submit to these back groundiground che. let's listen to what he said. >> when it comes to back
so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would...
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even thought about joining the nra. after newtown they started a political action committee to fight for tougher gun restrictions. they are calling for universal background checks covering gun shows and private dealers and a ban on magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition which kelly says might have saved the youngest victim of the shooting that almost killed his wife. the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a-year-old girl named christina taylor green when he tried to reload one 33 round magazine with another 33 round magazine and he dropped it it and a woman named patricia mayse grabbed it and it gave bystander time to tackle him. i contend if that same thing happened when he was trying to reload one ten round magazine with another 10 round magazine, meaning did he not have access to a high capacity magazine and the same thing happened, christina taylor green would be alive today. i certainly am willing to give up my right to own a high capacity magazine to bring that young woman ba
even thought about joining the nra. after newtown they started a political action committee to fight for tougher gun restrictions. they are calling for universal background checks covering gun shows and private dealers and a ban on magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition which kelly says might have saved the youngest victim of the shooting that almost killed his wife. the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a-year-old girl named christina taylor green when...